[AlexFL]

The prototype has recently been sighted on the Nurburgring. The top Taycan will be directly competing with Model S Plaid and Lucid Air Sapphire.

https://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/...-ps-erlkoenig/

[x622]

This. This is the daily driver. Plaid fast, but not dogshit plaid interior, handling and build quality.

I now want one

[dgoldenz]

The Turbo S is absurdly fast already, the instant torque is nuts. But there's always room for more...

[Donatello.]

That looks great. I'm sold. Too bad the $ will be another car for the rich

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by x622

This. This is the daily driver. Plaid fast, but not dogshit plaid interior, handling and build quality.

I now want one

Forgot to add that Porsche also plans a facelift for the 2024 model Taycan.

[BMWILUVU]

Which weighs more the new Taycan or a schoolbus?

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by BMWILUVU

Which weighs more the new Taycan or a schoolbus?

The Turbo S weighs about the same as an i4 M50, an X5M or a 760i. Maybe the wrong site to pick on fat cars?

[BMWILUVU]

Originally Posted by Red Bread

The Turbo S weighs about the same as an i4 M50, an X5M or a 760i. Maybe the wrong site to pick on fat cars?

I can't pick on a 5000lb Porsche? Money better spent on an 911 turbo.

[BGM-M3COMP]

With how expensive taycan turbo s, that taycan plaid will easily be 200k+.

Model s plaid remains the better bang for buck, with a better network.

Again Tesla is too far ahead of everyone.

[dgoldenz]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

With how expensive taycan turbo s, that taycan plaid will easily be 200k+.

Model s plaid remains the better bang for buck, with a better network.

Again Tesla is too far ahead of everyone.

Have you driven a Taycan? It feels like a sports car. The model S does not. The interior on the Tesla is also that of a $30k pile of trash.

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Model s plaid remains the better bang for buck, with a better network.

That's kinda like saying a Kia is a better bang for the buck than a BMW because they both make 300+ HP sedans, but Kia is cheaper and has twice as many dealers.

Yes, it will have similar drivetrain power. No, they are not very similar cars. Yes, the Porsche will cost more. There is a reason for the price difference.

Toyota is better bang for the buck than a Ferrari too, while we are on the subject.

[Red Bread]

Originally Posted by BMWILUVU

I can't pick on a 5000lb Porsche? Money better spent on an 911 turbo.

Can you fit four adults in a 911? Not sure I'd compare an electric sedan to a gas GT, and it's not like the 911tt is really a light car either.

No reason you can't have both. My neighbor has a Taycan and a manual 992 S. Seems like a decent combo.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by dgoldenz

Have you driven a Taycan? It feels like a sports car. The model S does not. The interior on the Tesla is also that of a $30k pile of trash.

When people are buying these hyper ev’s, they don’t buy them for track times.

Of course the Porsche interior is nicer, that’s where the higher premium comes into play.

In terms of usage, network, and insane acceleration, the plaid’s are still undefeated.

Don’t worry, car makers will catch up. But it’ll take about a decade.

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

When people are buying these hyper ev’s, they don’t buy them for track times.

The Taycan Turbo S is faster on the Nurburgring with 26% less HP.

In 2021:

Porsche sold 9414 taycans

Tesla sold 11,555 model S

Given the price delta between the two, that's some pretty close competition.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by chad86tsi

The Taycan Turbo S is faster on the Nurburgring with 26% less HP.

In 2021:

Porsche sold 9414 taycans

Tesla sold 11,555 model S

Given the price delta between the two, that's some pretty close competition.

Porsche lives at the ring. Tesla put their plaid there to showcase what it can do as a hyper ev.

People who buy these hyper ev’s in America aren’t shipping them to the ring for bragging rights.

The taycan is dog shit slow in comparison to the model s plaid. And cheaper too. With a better network.

Again car makers will catch up I believe but Tesla is still the front runner in this technology.

[dgoldenz]

One drives and feels like a Porsche. One feels like a stupidly fast gimmicky cheap plastic appliance on wheels. Apples and oranges.

[x622]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

When people are buying these hyper ev’s, they don’t buy them for track times.

Of course the Porsche interior is nicer, that’s where the higher premium comes into play.

In terms of usage, network, and insane acceleration, the plaid’s are still undefeated.

Don’t worry, car makers will catch up. But it’ll take about a decade.

That's adorable. I can't imagine having an allegiance or paying homage to a corporate entity that doesn't give a fuck about me. Sure there is preference, but then there is also this... I don't even know what to call it. Zealotry?

Why is this so prevalent in modern times? So many people get so defensive of (insert brand here). Is it to cope and justify their position?

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Porsche lives at the ring. Tesla put their plaid there to showcase what it can do as a hyper ev.

People who buy these hyper ev’s in America aren’t shipping them to the ring for bragging rights.

The taycan is dog shit slow in comparison to the model s plaid. And cheaper too. With a better network.

Again car makers will catch up I believe but Tesla is still the front runner in this technology.

Dog shit slow? The Taycan Turbo S is only 3 tenths of a second off 0-60 vs the Plaid. And it can actually turn, and brake.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Dog shit slow? The Taycan Turbo S is only 3 tenths of a second off 0-60 vs the Plaid. And it can actually turn, and brake.

It don't matter if you win by an inch or by a mile, winning is winning.

Every Tesla owner probably
/S

[jesm]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

Forgot to add that Porsche also plans a facelift for the 2024 model Taycan.

That facelift Taycan looks much better than the current one...looks awesome.

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Porsche lives at the ring. Tesla put their plaid there to showcase what it can do as a hyper ev.

People who buy these hyper ev’s in America aren’t shipping them to the ring for bragging rights.

No, but the manufacturers are, and they are chasing Porsche.

The taycan is dog shit slow in comparison to the model s plaid. And cheaper too. With a better network.

And top fuel dragster makes a plaid look slow as donky shit, doing 0-60 in less than half a second, eclipsing 60 in less than 20' from launch, so it's clearly a better car to buy and drive.

Example at time 1:50:

[/sarcasam]

Again car makers will catch up I believe but Tesla is still the front runner in this technology.

Some want a fast laptop on wheels from a leader in technology. Others want a drivers car from a leader in driving experience.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Dog shit slow? The Taycan Turbo S is only 3 tenths of a second off 0-60 vs the Plaid. And it can actually turn, and brake.

And a full second slower in the 1/4 mile. And it runs 7.7 60-130 lmao

Model s plaid does it in 4.x seconds.

Porsche will catch up I’m sure. But it’ll be double the price of the other plaid.