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Who buys a vehicle like X1 for any driving dynamics? Excatly, therefore it being FWD should be a non factor for potential buyers...at least for vast majority. If you're on here complaining about any driving dynamic then I lost faith in humanity.
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I think you are wrong. When I drive my brother's Isuzu trooper, I hated it. I also drove the first generation Santafe, which is horrible....but when I frist drove the e53 x5 with a manual transmission, I was shocked at how stable it was. I currently own a 4.8is and it handles curves and high speed very very well.
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11-23-2013, 03:18 PM | #26 |
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Those classic FWD proportions, with the front axle as far back as humanly possible.
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Is that really 2016? Too far off
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Their competition is looking beautiful right about now: http://www.autoblog.com/2014/01/07/2...enz-gla45-amg/
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So it's supposed to look 'sportier' than the current X1, and backs up these sporting credentials with a FWD base model and crappy F-series guess-o-matic steering?
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With the existing X1 35i offering up 300hp and competition from Mercedes with the GLA45, Audi with the Q3 RS (and in theory a 2.0L 4 cylinder ~300hp Q3 S too - though they have opted not to build one so far), and others I have to believe that BMW is planning to offer at least 300hp for the F48 as well.
So this really has me wondering what will power such a vehicle. I think a transverse B58 I6 (or any other I6) can be all but completely ruled out. So that leaves us just with I4. Obviously BMW knows how to get 150hp+ per liter since the B38 in the i8 hits that mark, but that is a "special" engine and so far they have not gone near there with the 2.0L I4 since (240hp is the most from N20). Older rumors claimed a targeted maximum of 133hp/L for the B48, but 266hp seems unlikely to cut it. So when will BMW get in on the 300hp I4 club? |
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I hope xDrive will be more RWD than FWD because our X1 18d xDrive is truly fun to drive in the snow...
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As it was with the current E84. But over the seven year lifespan of the car, I think we are going to see BMW make a move. And not just for this vehicle but any BMW-branded UKL vehicle for which a performance variant could be a compelling offering.
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Was unavoidable that BMW did not participate in the segment of high-performance SUV lights? Whether you have an engine with 4 cylinder or 6 the war for the glory of the performance is declared. Ladies and gentleman! Audi Q3RS vs Porsche Macan Turbo vs Mercedes GLA45AMG vs coming X1M. Last edited by Pure; 01-07-2014 at 12:23 PM.. |
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We are already seeing some competitors move forward with challengers here. I recently won a bet from around 10 years ago when I said Porsche will have a mid-size SUV in that 10 years. And have a new bet that there will be a compact Porsche SUV by the end of this decade. Many at BMW reckon it will be time for BMW X1M to provide high performance in this segment. Early design work has commenced with some proposals using the widened arches of the M235i Racer. For BMW X1 M to exist it will possibly share engine with the upcoming M2. But will be available in xDrive only. A decision won't be made until the F48 has launched in 2015. One such vehicle decided will be X1s sister car the MINI Countryman which will come in a full JCW model as MINI move forward to implement JCW on certain models Allowing a BMW M type of exclusivity to JCW.
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