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05-24-2022, 03:00 PM | #596 |
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The current gen M2 is nearly $59K. The base G87 will likely be more like $65K+. BMW has been increasing M car prices dramatically over the past few years.
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Also, you'd be hard pressed to find an M240 RWD for $46.5K as most people want leather, a color other plain white, Nav, and the typical creature comforts. Most RWD M240s will have around $5K-7K in options.
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By your own logic Nissan must have had cost savings in mind when they made their own bespoke VR38DETT for the GTR closed deck |
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I am saying another 20% increase in msrp for a G87 with zero options is a lot for your average customer shopping a Perf trim Z. $10k is best case scenario(if G87 is $59.9k), plus it is only a stripper G87. Then you have more tax and higher insurance on the BMW. If you want the equipment on the Perf Trim Z, you will want Exec Pack on the M2 at the minimum. They are just different price points for different buyers.
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The S55, the S58, and the VR38DETT are indeed closed deck designs because they are high revving performance motors and make big power stock. These motors are designed for legit track use so yeah, closed deck is the preferred design. The S58 block is similar to the B58, but they indeed different in terms of bore and stroke as well as pistons, rods, bearings, etc. Can the B58 block itself likely handle stupid power compared to the N54/N55? No doubt it can. Can the rods, bearings, and pistons do it? Nope. No better than the N54/N55 could over the long term. If you upgrade the rotating stuff and want to go after power bragging rights, then yeah, the B58 is definitely the way to go. I'd also have no issue owning the B58. It's a stellar motor and one of the best out there.
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Official color options (w/ interiors) for 2023 Nissan Z in US market
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Looks like FI is already working on an exhaust for the Z. I can attest to the quality of that company as I have their exhaust on my 3.5 N/A.
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I like it more than I thought I would....but it needs a V8!
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The base car is not bad looking (I dig it). Too bad its going to be impossible to find with a reasonable price
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The VK56 is huge. Its going to be hard to stuff that in the FM chassis cars and keep the handling balance intact.
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There was also the VK45 used in the Infiniti M45. When I had my 350z I always wondered why they didn't try that instead of the 3.7 for the following generation. Would have been badass.
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