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I have an X1 sDrive 2.0i M Sport. (2019) Since owning the car I have problems with the loss of traction when pulling out onto a roundabout or slip road from a standing start. The wheels appear to be spinning and juddering when pulling away quickly. It is my first experience of driving an automatic - in a manual, I had more clutch control when it came to joining roundabouts etc. I am not flooring the accelerator by any means, but on occasions you have to pull out quickly. The car is shod with Pirelli P Zeros 225/50/18. Has anyone else experienced this? Does the DSC need looking at? Or is it a "characteristic" of the car? I would appreciate any input. |
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My guess, try turning the dsc off and see what that does, I'm not sure if the x1 has it but there is I think a soft dsc off where you push it once and a hard dsc off try both. If that doesn't help or make it worse then it might lead to another problem. Are you sure it's wheels doing and slipping and not something mechanic that moves around? |
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It is a "characteristic" of the car. The DSC does not need looking at. Even my wife's little VW Polo that had less power did it. You will notice it tends to happen when the front wheels are turned slightly at an angle, more so when entering traffic on a roundabout, and also it manifests itself under damp road conditions especially on smooth tarmac surfaces.
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Another important variable may be the tyre pressure on the front wheels compared to rear wheels. If the front tyres are overinflated then the spinning effect may be accentuated since the contact with the road will be smaller. If the pressure between front and rear will be out of manufacturer recommendations then the gravity center may be affected also.
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and so only the front wheels are driven. Loss of traction on the front-driven wheels. The rear ones are being dragged along. Tyre pressure on the rears does not affect the slippage the OP is getting on his front driving wheels.
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My thanks to all for getting back to me.
I find it disconcerting losing traction when entering a roundabout. I have tried it with DSC on and off with no appreciable difference; bizarrely, it helps if I enter the roundabout in sport mode! I will try reducing the tyre pressure on the front wheels to see if that helps. |
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Such as: Outside air temperature Tyre temperatures Road conditions (Wet, damp, or dry) Throttle position All-up weight of the car. Something that BMW engineers try to achieve from concept through to testing and finally to mass production. Even then they have to refine and test over time. This includes different tyres as they evolve and come onto the market. Forgot to say! Your car is still under warranty? See a dealer and ask his opinion! E & OE
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May I suggest you get this fully checked out as a warranty issue. I would suggest that you ask for the throttle to be reset/recalibrated and gearbox parameters are checked. I would also ask for the traction control and stability control systems to be checked. Unless pulling away on gravel/loose surface or a very heavy right foot, imho the front tyres should not spin/slip, especially in comfort/eco modes. Tyres can have a huge impact and some tyres can make even the best handling car perform poorly in certain circumstances. The Pirelli P zeros are an excellent tyres but wheel spin is something that a number of people have complained about, it is possibly a compromise in the tread pattern which is quiet but also provides good stability and lateral grip. Have you tried the same model on different tyres? Last edited by MJE60; 02-21-2021 at 02:42 PM.. |
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I wonder if the original poster just has a heavy foot... I can roast the tires on my Honda Odyssey FWD minivan if I want to almost at any time, so entering any turn and having a heavy foot with a car that's "different" than what you're used to sounds really a question of driving style. Even on any xdrive or AWD car I have I can get wheels to spin. On my X2 if I am rushing to get into a gap while turning out of a side street the front tires will loose a little traction there as well.
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I will flag the issue up when it goes in for a service. (Two year service with 3700 miles on the clock!) |
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I've never had any wheelspin on my xDrive, unless there was a lot of snow or ice on the road.
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