05-27-2015, 08:53 AM | #1 |
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M2 Weight???
Any confirmation on how much will the M2 weighs?
The M235i coupe is only 25lbs lighter than the M4, but 95lbs lighter compared to the 435i. The M division was able to lighten the M4 by 70lbs compared to the 435i. If the the M4 weight reduction formula carries over to the M2, my guess is the M2 would weigh 3,446lbs. That would be very disappointing if my guess is close. To make the M2 as exciting as speculated, it needs to be closer to 3,300lbs. M4 Manual - 3,530lbs 435i Manual - 3,600lbs M235 Manual - 3,505lbs Hope to be wrong here.
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well for comparison sake:
135i: 3373 lbs 1M: 3296 lbs 235: 3505 lbs M2: 3418 lbs?? pretty close to your estimate...using a 77 lb loss which accompanied the 135/1M change. I don't think you will see a 200 lb weight loss...that would mean a significantly higher price. |
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The 1m only dropped about 85lbs from the 135is. I would expect a similar weight loss compared to the m235i. Remember the 2 series is a slightly bigger car in general compared to 1 series. That would put it in the 3400 range and hitting 3400 if they push it.
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For example, BMW USA website says a 228i with 6MT weighs 3295 lbs. GSR measured their stripper with half a tank of gas and it came out to 3091 lbs. I don't think it's completely impossible for a 0 optioned M2 to be 3400 lbs. I guess we'll see soon enough.
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I don't care about weight. It is what it is. Are you not going to buy it over 50 pounds?
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Now that the price difference of the M2 and M3 is about $5k (assuming they will not discount the M2), weight is the biggest factor into making this decision. The weight difference need to be 150lbs from the M3 to have a noticeable advantage (braking, cornering, and tire wear). I would consider an M2 for a dedicated track car if it weighs less than 3,400lbs.
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In all honesty, an F80 makes more sense to add to the current cars I have, because I already have 2 coupes. But the reason I'm leaning toward the M2 is just because I found the M235i to be more playful than the M3. Yes they might be the same weight, yes the M3/4 is much quicker. But the 2er platform is the right size and I've always come away being almost more impressed with the M235i after I've driven them back to back (twice). Flamesuit on (not that I really care what M3/4 owners think). The reason I've been following the M2 since Day 1 is because if I liked the M235i, how could I not like the M2?
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I'm thinking of having a dedicated track car. Still deciding if the M2 is the answer or use my M3. The price and weight will determine the final decision.
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Honestly, I'd just go to your dealership and try to find an M235i to try out. Then judge that with your M3 and it'll give you a good idea if the M2 is for you or not.
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Ironic, because I was thinking an M6GC with a 6MT would be kind of neat to have in the future
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The M3 is way more fun to drive. The 6GC can be playful, but you can feel the extra weight. I recently came from a 750Li, to a 6GC and X5, to an M3. So far the M3 is the ideal size and weight for daily and fun. Don't make the mistake I did and get xDrive. No one makes coilvers for an xDrive and it sits way too high stock. For the same price, just get an M5. Photo of it parked next to my last X5.
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The weight of the 235 with a sunroof delete and similar options would be a better comparison - hint, it's closer to your 1M's weight than you might be able to handle. See here - there are 1Ms running around the EU that are in the 3552 range (is it just me, or does that number sounds familiar?): http://www.zeperfs.com/en/fiche3711-bmw-1m.htm
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the reality is that BMW listed the weight as 3296lbs globally and in the US a 3360 number was used as well. The other reality is that BMW USA also used 3505 as the MT weight for the M235 in the US....and even more for the slushbox. No matter what way you want to look at it there IS close to a 150 lb difference at least....if not more. |
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Can you not understand that more options (aka a sunroof) are standard for a 235 that were not offered on your 1M? And that the published figures for the car are based upon those standard options? Perhaps, in some wild stretch of the imagination, a 1M and 235, both MT equipped, steel roof, heated seats only be a better comparison? Furthermore, my distaste for my own car is well known on these threads. Generalize some on your part? The truth of the matter is that most times you provide no appreciable benefit to the conversations on this board. You are, from the majority of what I have seen, a pretty pompous ass in a place where fun discussions should be the norm. You are inherently defensive about anything you own or have owned, and similarly dismissive of anything that is presented as a viable alternative to one of those vehicles. The approach does not benefit anyone...
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Is there a function on here to ignore a post? On topic, IMHO the 100-200lb difference in weight in the big picture will not matter, It's how the car feels and drives that will be the deciding factor. My guess 34xxlb, MT, min options. |
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I do however still love to see what's up with M2!
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