[Helmsman]

Originally Posted by jmack123

This is the problem with anecdotal statements. The X5M isn't track capable? It (F85) was certainly capable of outpacing an M5 (F10) when compared in a track setting. Again, the idea that these vehicles aren't track capable is laughable and is an antiquated paradigm. While that may have been the case in decades past, technological advancements have clearly demonstrated that the gap has significantly narrowed in that regard.

https://fastestlaps.com/tracks/autozeitung-test-track

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-x5-m-2015

On the Nurburgring, it performed comparably to the prior generation M5/M6. As we would expect, the cars should outperform the SUVs, however the fact that it could compete with the prior generation M cars is admirable:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Nürburgring_Nordschleife_lap_times

https://fastestlaps.com/models/bmw-x5-m-2015

Putting up a good fight for his SUV! If you really wanted an ///M get one mate. The BMW SUVs I'm sure is great though, be a happy bloke as it is but don't let marketing mix stuff up for you...