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      06-03-2015, 05:01 AM   #115
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Originally Posted by Tracus View Post
Maybe you should choose a more diplomatic way to express your opinion.

RWD is different than FWD, so if you don't know, or the others don't know, probably the "shut up" decision should be in your team.
A TRUE XDrive it is a very different animal since it is actually on dry pavement a sporty RWD vehicle. It is not about a "great looking little crossover", because Hyundai looks good too but they are a "great looking zero". It is about a vehicle that CAN be great looking ( I consider the actual one very great looking), and that can perform and be good as a whole; or as we can see, the actual one can be great, cool, practical and fun.

In regards with your statement that "they have to make best selling models such as these in order to finance their M cars", I can tell you that you are very naïve. None of these cars finance or provide for the M vehicles, that is a story to put kids to sleep. Companies that still make good sports cars, don't need vans or FWD crap to finance the sport ones. Not to mention, years ago, when BMW was selling 3,5 and 7, was still building great cars. Maybe this blah, blah, should stop because it is just childish and proves that some people are really naive. BMW sells a lot and is doing well and was doing well before.

Your comment with the "RWD compromise" is pathetic at least, especially when we talk about one inch in length gain and another one in width. Three adults will not seat properly in the rear of this car regardless, always you will fit only "Malcolm in the middle".

Not the last, obviously you have an opinion based on the "reviews" that you read, not on your experience. I drove the Active Tourer for three weeks in holiday, and is far from excellent; the term "Fantastic" is just a dream that engineers aspire to, and regardless how hard a fanboi tries, physics has its laws and a FWD can do that much.

Regarding the Megane, have you driven it? Great car, buts still you don't know what are you talking about.

Bottom line, I prefer 100% the old one with more polarizing design, a more powerful engine, a ZF 8 speed, lower body, longer wheelbase (I let you think why) and a RWD biased AWD. It is a fun car.
Maybe you should choose a more diplomatic way to express your opinions too. No I haven't driven the Active Tourer, but yes I have driven the Megane, but also FFord and F2000 single seaters, so I probably know a thing or two about RWD... My naive opinion as you might say comes from knowledge of the industry. How do you think Porsche finance the R&D of their 911? not with the sales of Boxsters and Caymans mind you. You can prefer the old model but I can bet you that this generation will outsell the previous one by far and will prove to be one of the most popular BMW's. You might like RWD, but the vast majority of the target people for this vehicle care about the safety of FWD, a bigger cabin space and maybe less about how "fun" it is to drive. People who like RWD will always find other vehicles BMW offers and that's why think the debate between RWD and FWD a little old. People always like to complain even though they have plenty to choose from.
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