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      10-28-2020, 01:40 PM   #131
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I'm in a community energy service already; It uses coal, nat gas, wind, and nuke. Oil is less than 1% of electrical energy production in the US. Not sure how solar will kill consumer oil for electricity production.
Go back and read the post, but basically solar is at the point of being cheaper than coal, nuke, and gas and that cost disparity is only going to increase (plus it's mobile, local, and easy to install!). For example, Tesla mega-pack peaker plants already cost 10% of the equivalent gas-fired peakers, and this is all before you start throwing in bi-directional charging and V2G tech which could be so lucrative as to offset the cost of the family car.

Gasoline has a loooonnngggg, expensive, messy, fragile, resource-heavy supply chain that has to be updated at 1000s of locations weekly. If a family can buy a household megapack, get outage/storm protection, offset their electricity costs - and then add an electric car that also gets a V2G kickback, uses the power they generate, and eliminates a trip to the gas station and any gasoline supply chain problems thus making them self-sufficient ... they'd be stupid not to do it. And they will ... they're already starting.

And once people start buying less gasoline (which they are now if only due to covid), that long, messy, expensive, fragile gasoline supply chain is going to get very expensive and soon there'll be a tidal wave of people moving away from petrol.

So it's energy deregulation and local renewable microgeneration that will slowly strangle the consumer oil/petrol market (which requires massive scale to be remotely feasible). I'm sure you know how an economic flywheel works - so that's how.
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