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Originally Posted by M3WC
What can be purchased new from Japanese and Germans, that can off-road out of the box to the level of a Rubicon Wrangler? The value is there for someone who offroads or does overlanding. I would not call the Rubicon Wrangler overpriced. Owners thrash the hell out of them rock crawling and they hold up quite well. They can go straight off the dealer lot to Moab and tackle some of highest rated trails. I would not call them "shoddily" built. Bronco longterm reliability offroad has yet to be seen, so far they are quite capable.
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A new $44k Toyota 4Runner TRD Off-Road outfitted with proper AT tires (come with crap all seasons) on the stock wheels can do 95%+ of what a Bronco or Rubicon can do all the while being one of the most reliable vehicles on the road which is what you want when you're a 100 miles deep into an overland trip.
Has no one brought up all the Bronco motor failures? The NHTSA is currently investigating due to the number of failures.