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      07-03-2023, 04:10 PM   #22
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Which is why it is a pity that someone like Alfa Romeo that only makes driver centric cars are written off by buyers. Initially it was quality and now it is the quality must be fake…it’s to sad to see they have no path since even enthusiasts are now locked into their brands.
I think from an enthusiast perspective they will still have their buyers. Unfortunately there's so few enthusiasts that if that's ALL you focus on, you won't do very well in this price range... The base Giulia and Stelvio are great cars, but outside of enthusiast focused, they're not very compelling over their competition. For what it's worth I myself considered a Giulia QF very strongly before deciding to go with an M3.

The reason for "the quality must be fake" rhetoric has more to do with J.D. Power's reputation, especially when you're talking about brands that typically ranked towards the bottom. If some of Stallantis' brands started rating higher on CR lists, this would probably be a different conversation.
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