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Originally Posted by M4Now!
First - cool bike! Pinarello has done some really cool frames, glad you're delighted 
Next, re weight: Really? Do you have any other heavy components? My bike weighed in at 15.5 before the change to the (lighter) Enve wheels, so it's kinda surprising you're at 16+?
Not that it matters to us, we aren't pros with 2% body fat. It's a lot cheaper to take a pound off of ME, vs. a pound off my bike 
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Well, i'm at 13% body fat now after losing about 57 pounds over the course of a year. I'm not going to lose anymore weight, if anything i'm going to gain some muscle though strength training, leg focused of course.
But the F8 isn't known as a light frame set. The pedals are tanks and my guess is that it's a combination of the two. Build list: Enve Srs 4.5 with CK hubs, Conti 4000gp tires, dura ace brakes, zipp carbon aero bars, enve carbon stem, Selle Italia Flite carbon saddle, Sram Red22 cranks, 11-28 ultegra cassette, Red 22 chain, eTap shifting group.
Your Wilier frame set is a feather weight, not really surprised it's sub-16#.
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Originally Posted by Rayscott
Thinking of getting a power meter for my Trek. Pedal based from Garmin which was recommended by the owner of my Bike shop. One leg for now, will add other leg in the spring. I am training for Senior Olympics next year. I won all 3 gold medals in our state in 2014 but could not go to Nationals. I have been using a HR monitor for years but there can be a lot of variables which can effect my performance. A power meter monitors power and the numbers are absolute which make it a better training tool than a HR monitor from what my bike shop and articles I have read claim. I will be 73 next month and plan to purchase it before I leave for Florida in a month for 2 months. That is when I begin serious training as I can ride a lot more. What are your thoughts on this.
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Originally Posted by M4Now!
First - kickass!! Congrats on your excellent results!
But, DO NOT buy the Garmin Vectors!! I have them on two bikes, and absolutely do not recommend them.
The Vector 2s are on the Wilier, with Vector S on the Litespeed. Both have been hugely problematic, finally resulting on my spending lots of time on the phone with Garmin engineering (seriously, the engineer who designed the pedals).
Finally I'm at the point that they work about 95% of the time, which is a sad commentary. When they work, they're great...
I recommend you either a) go with the new power meter in the Dura-Ace crankset coming out this spring, or b) go with Stages. Based on reviews I've seen, they appear pretty close to bulletproof. No, you don't get separate power per leg, but you'll find that at higher intervals you'll be pretty close to even.
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I agree with some of the above. I would not recommend Vectors, VectorII or VectorII-s power pedals. I don't have them but some of the people i ride with do and they seem to have some type of crazy routine to adhere to in order to get consistent readings. But for me, the fact that there is a wire running from the outside of the crank to the inside of the crank is the deal breaker. I know 2 people who have had to replace their pods because the wires were cut or ripped out from something as innocuous as transporting their bike in the back of their SUV.
I also would not recommend Stages. One of the people i ride with every week has them and she has problems with them on about 60% of our rides. Mainly connectivity problems. She also had a problem with water getting into the battery compartment at one point as well.
For me, getting a power meter is kind of like buying a gun safe. Buy the best quality, largest size gun safe you can afford. Same thing for a power meter. Buy the best quality power meter you can afford. Of course other things come in to play because you may have different needs, such as wanting power on multiple bikes.
As said, there are loads of power meter options these days. I personally have experience with PowerTap. Specifically the G3 hub and P1 pedals. If i didn't have the desire to have one power meter for using on my outside bike and inside trainer bike, as well as know my propensity for getting new bikes, i'd have a SRM or Quarq crank based power meter.
My wife has had Power Tap hubs for the last 9 years. They have been super reliable and the reported power has been consistent. Her only issue is changing the batteries on them. They were inconvenient to change from her TT bike to her Road bike because the TT bike was 10speed and her road bike is 11 speed. You'd have to change the free hub as well as the cassette to use it on another bike.
I picked up a pair of P1 pedals in the early going. I believe they were release in August of 2015 and i bought mine just a few month's later. I've been though some firmware updates that have been great. The power tap phone app is much better now than it used to be. (if you want to use it) I haven't had any issues other than a broken spring in the claw part of the pedal. It happened the week before i was headed to Montana for a week long vacation ride. They paid for 2 day shipping both ways and got my pedals back to me (completely rebuilt, new spindles, bearings, etc...) before my ride. There were people in the building where they build the pedals answer my calls.
My wife is on the cusp of getting a new TT bike and also wanted a deeper rear aero wheel. This is when the hub became more complicated, number of spokes in the hub vs the wheel, cost of a new hub, etc... So we got her a set of P1 pedals and 808s for her TT bike. She's going to move her 404s with the G3 hub to her road bike. By having power in the pedals, there is nothing to worry about compatibility wise with one of the bikes most expensive and important training comments, the power meter.
If you don't need to change power meter from bike to bike and you don't change bikes like underwear, i'd recommend a quarq when balancing cost and quality. If you like the idea of pedals for a power meter, i'd go with Power Tap, P1s. For a consistent and reliable budget power meter the power tap chainrings.
Quarq with Top end cranks - $1300
P1 pedals - $1100
Power tap chain rings - $700
Garmin Vector 2 - $1000
Garmin Vector 2s - $600
If ~$600 is your budget, i'd go with the chainrings. Here is a review of the pedals & chain rings along with collected data comparisons between the different meters.
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/08/...ls-review.html
https://www.dcrainmaker.com/2015/12/...ng-review.html
Where are you going to be training in FL?