[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by dreamingat30fps

And that is the problem with dealers. There should not be good and bad dealers.

My particular bad BMW dealer would always have a massive wait time just to drop off the damn car. Sometimes I would be there for an hour WITH an appointment. Their loaner cars were disgusting, pretty sure one of them had literal snot all over the dash, can you at least wipe it down with a dirty rag so you can't see the snot? Nah send it! Doesn't help that my freaking e92 335i probably spent more time there than at my house.

One time they were fixing my AC and I get the car back and immediately I notice my wood trim looked very odd. SA says he doesn't know anything. Dude... this piece of trim is a totally different color than the rest??? Oh yeah sorry, we broke it and replaced it. With a different fucking color??? Eventually they ordered the correct trim but apparently they were hoping I just woudln't notice.

They also crashed my car while on their lot... so there's that.

Tesla has done none of those things. Of course only had to go to the service center once for minor things after delivery. The best service IMO is not needing any service.

When I blew 2 tires on my last Tesla going through some pot holes in the rain didn't even have to go to a service center. Tesla sent their tech to my house and he replaced the tires right on my driveway.

Looks like a bad experience for sure comparing the two, heavy handed treatment for your 3 series and after the park collision it was definitely time to change dealerships.

[Weather Man]

ICE to the rescue!

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

You know I never even thought of that side, holy s#it you can count me out of ever getting into an EV, No thanks.

You know what, those EV owners will tell you 'anyway everyone will going to die sooner or later' does it really matter ?? !!!

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Please don't talk on things you know nothing about.

Read the first comment and you can watch people measure it on Youtube. I have a Trifield meter I bought ($2XX on Amazon) and you would be BLOWN away at what you can find.

Microwaves, despite being advertised as safe, blast RF, Smart meters are basically off the charts. Even cell phones are unsafe, yet people put them in their pockets without a thought.

You know one common thing with EV owners is tunnel vision. Of course one full day of driving your EV will not kill you. But driving for years is a different story

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

He must have a paraffin heater under the batch of batteries

diesel generator hiding away

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

You know one common thing with EV owners is tunnel vision. Of course one full day of driving your EV will not kill you. But driving for years is a different story

Most microwaves use 6000 times (or higher) the power levels being quoted to cook food and the they work by water molecules absorbing the RF energy which means it heats up. The RF band which this happens is a quite narrow frequency band, so unless that meter is tuned to only filter that band, likely it is much lower power for the frequencies that can heat water. At that very low power levels chance of raising the temperature of skin is negligible, let alone deeper in body.

Most likely the RF power being measured is at a much lower frequency and is likely related to things like switch mode power supplies used to charge the battery - at this lower frequency the photons won't be harmful.

[BlueRidgeBMW]

I’m in the more cylinders, the better camp

[gblansten]

I see we get little fear this morning and a bit of Facebook. How's everyone doing?

[gblansten]

If things get really slow someone should post something from "shart guy".

[Weather Man]

Originally Posted by gblansten

If things get really slow someone should post something.

Only the very best for you.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by gblansten

I see we get little fear this morning and a bit of Facebook. How's everyone doing?

Not bad, trying to stop being logical and been looking for another 3rd gen MX5 to replace my beater and how to convince the wife and kid that they ain't going on vacation
You?

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by gblansten

This thread is deeply amusing as an exposition for those amongst us who suffer from crippling fears and anxieties.

Remember it is those who suffer from "crippling fears and anxieties" that the planets climate is burning that drives the EV Psychosis.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by eugenebmw

Of course one full day of driving your EV will not kill you. But driving for years is a different story

Problems solved, the most effective way to mitigate the effects of climate change is depopulation, I can't image a group of folks where a deleterious effects on reproduction will benefit all concerned.

[Equilibrandt]

Loved taking my morning coffee reading about some tinfoil hat dude who runs around with an RF receiver to protect his wife's acute 5G disorder. I'd love to see the specs on his $200 wideband receiver; I bet the fidelity is nothing short of dogwater.

As previously mentioned, what a shocking lack of understanding of RF in general (RF engineer, here) and microwaves specifically from someone acting like they're an expert in the field.

I'd bet simply burning a candle in your house a few times a week would boost your toxic load enough to absolutely slam whatever infinitesimally-small effect holding my 5G cell phone near my head a few times a day would have.

I'd love to see some source data on how much RF energy my buttcheeks absorb sitting on top of an EV's battery pack. Then compare that to the effect of the little bit of fumes I inhale as I let my F80 warm up in the morning.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by Equilibrandt

Loved taking my morning coffee reading about some tinfoil hat dude who runs around with an RF receiver to protect his wife's acute 5G disorder. I'd love to see the specs on his $200 wideband receiver; I bet the fidelity is nothing short of dogwater.

As previously mentioned, what a shocking lack of understanding of RF in general (RF engineer, here) and microwaves specifically from someone acting like they're an expert in the field.

I'd bet simply burning a candle in your house a few times a week would boost your toxic load enough to absolutely slam whatever infinitesimally-small effect holding my 5G cell phone near my head a few times a day would have.

I'd love to see some source data on how much RF energy my buttcheeks absorb sitting on top of an EV's battery pack. Then compare that to the effect of the little bit of fumes I inhale as I let my F80 warm up in the morning.

Buy one?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078T2R64C...language=en_US

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Most microwaves use 6000 times (or higher) the power levels being quoted to cook food and the they work by water molecules absorbing the RF energy which means it heats up. The RF band which this happens is a quite narrow frequency band, so unless that meter is tuned to only filter that band, likely it is much lower power for the frequencies that can heat water. At that very low power levels chance of raising the temperature of skin is negligible, let alone deeper in body.

Most likely the RF power being measured is at a much lower frequency and is likely related to things like switch mode power supplies used to charge the battery - at this lower frequency the photons won't be harmful.

Heck, I'd say the seat heater mat alone would make a decent Farady shield all by itself let alone the sheet metal Floorplan to keep one's nads intact.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by AmuroRay

Buy one?

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078T2R64C...language=en_US

Picking up from the spec

This meter reads RF and microwaves in the frequency range 20 MHz to 6 GHz. This includes most new 5G installations, but not experimental millimeter wave 5G. Only the total power level from all sources is displayed. No information regarding specific frequencies is displayed.

So likely that'll pickup everything from the local FM transmitter, your microwave, Wi-fi, any stray RF given off by the device and give you a reading of the total value - you'll have no idea whether the measurements are for each item.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Problems solved, the most effective way to mitigate the effects of climate change is depopulation, I can't image a group of folks where a deleterious effects on reproduction will benefit all concerned.

[JimmyTheHand]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Heck, I'd say the seat heater mat alone would make a decent Farady shield all by itself let alone the sheet metal Floorplan to keep one's nads intact.

Depends on frequency - but for lower frequencies most likely which I suspect most of what is being measured

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Weather Man

Only the very best for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wuxR3h1_j_k


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GjUMI5spWeU

Wrong guy.

[gblansten]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Remember it is those who suffer from "crippling fears and anxieties" that the planets climate is burning that drives the EV Psychosis.

Unfortunately, neuroses seem broadly applied to both ends of the spectrum. That EMF stuff ranks up there with the Zyklon B.

[AmuroRay]

Originally Posted by JimmyTheHand

Picking up from the spec


So likely that'll pickup everything from the local FM transmitter, your microwave, Wi-fi, any stray RF given off by the device and give you a reading of the total value - you'll have no idea whether the measurements are for each item.

If you had one - you could actually test what your saying. I have "quiet" rooms in my house, and the unit absolutely sensitive enough to pick up smaller readings, but also "precise" enough to locate the direction of where it's coming from.

It basically one of the best units you can buy at the price point, before jumping up to more precise units at thousands. Claiming that "I'm picking up FM transmitters" sounds like someone who read a booklet looking for issues and not actual having experience with it.

I have a video of me testing the microwave, wifi and other devices in my house - it absolutely doesn't "pick up" random FM transmissions. Ya'll are WILD with these comments.