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Originally Posted by nozydog
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Originally Posted by m34m
You are not accurate. The cars you mentioned are marginally lighter than their predecessors but larger in most dimensions. Larger is not a quality enthusiasts covet.
...whatever the motivation of these companies they can serve these mass consumer segments without diluting their core brand and competencies or alienating their enthusiast base. Porsche does this perfectly. They build beautiful sports cars that are the right size, weight, and have the right transmissions while maintaining a large and dominant footprint in motor sports.
Calling out BMW for failing miserably to achieve what Porsche has doesn't make us less "adult" my friend.
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You're right about size... I'm concerned that the G20 will simply make the 3 series too damn big (regardless of weight)
Porsche are doing a good job yes, though I've heard many a complaint suggesting the 911 has now grown too big... maybe that's where the Cayman comes in... oh no wait, we're now all whining about their new 4 pot engines!! And BMW haven't failed miserably at all, they are a business and need to make Profits! They still build good RWD cars, the 2 series being a prime example and the F30 is a fine car, if now a little 'over refined'! I do feel sad however that if we want a new compact RWD BMW in the future the 2 door 2 series is our only option! 
Real pity the new 2 series GC will be FWD, however I bet it will still be a great car to drive as FWD doesn't HAVE to ruin handling (Focus, Golf, Scirocco etc)...
I do feel too many people are already slating this X2 purely because of it's drive orientation, before we get some real opinions on how it drives. My guess is that it will actually be a 'best in class' drive at it's price point (it won't match a Macan, but then that's a much more expensive car!) |
Once the new 2 series goes to an FWD based chassis I will no longer be interested just like I am no longer interested in an X1. I own an e84 X1 and am not interested in the X2.
If BMW really cancels the M2 CSL , then I will have to agree with
Pyrat 2 that there may not be a single product in the lineup that captures ME as a BMW buyer.
The 3/4/5/7 are all much larger cars than I want.
My friend
1M Tex just won an opportunity for a custom M5. If I won the same prize I would give it away. I just don't need or require a full size sedan. And I surely don't have the cash for a six figure vehicle.
I am still mildly interested in moving my X1 M sport up slightly in size so an X3 M40 may be the last BMW I am interested In purchasing. I love the brand but certainly don't see a lot on the menu for me
The X3M will probably be way too $$$.